The Men's Roundtable Series Podcast: "Work-Life-Purpose Part 2: Reframing The Work"

What if the grind isn’t the goal anymore? We brought a table of fathers, husbands, coaches, chaplains, and creators to rethink success, purpose, and legacy—without the fluff. The stories are raw: shifting from six-figure comfort to meaningful service, trading the spotlight to champion a spouse’s calling, and learning to measure a good day by peace, presence, and the people we lift.

We unpack how purpose and provision can work together when our priorities are straight. You’ll hear how authenticity becomes the new metric, why ambition can masquerade as “faith,” and how to test your next move with prayer, counsel, and courage. From a college server learning to bring joy on $2.18 an hour, to a speaker realizing he’s the “brokest” in the room yet rich in what matters most, the message is simple: small, faithful acts compound into real impact. Legacy lives in kitchens, locker rooms, and early-morning men’s groups—one seed, one soul, one choice at a time.

We get practical about brotherhood, too. Stop competing with men who should be your allies. Reply to the text. Start a circle where you live. Execute instead of procrastinating. If you’ve felt the tension between safety and calling, this conversation gives you language, guardrails, and a nudge to move. Success isn’t louder; it’s truer.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome, Housekeeping, Part One Recap
• 3:50 Meet The Panelists
• 7:55 Rethinking Success: Money, Peace, Impact
• 17:34 Sacrifice, Marriage, Seasons Of Calling
• 23:34 Authenticity As A New Metric
• 28:04 Brick By Brick: Daily Process
• 32:24 Kingdom Impact Over Worldly Wins
• 41:03 Purpose vs Provision: Faith And Work
• 47:53 Serving In Small Roles With Big Meaning
• 54:53 Stepping Out In Faith Without Ambition
• 1:01:13 Presence And Brotherhood
• 1:05:43 Connecting With Men Without Competing
• 1:11:03 What Legacy Really Looks Like
• 1:18:53 Small Seeds, Lasting Impact

Transcript

SPEAKER_04: 0:17

Welcome back to the Men's Roundtable Series Podcast. I'm your host, Mr. U. Really glad to be here with everybody. Good to have this group of warriors back in a box with us again today. Fathers, husbands, sons, and brothers coming to do this life thing together and doing it right. So I'm excited to have you guys here. In part one, I think about a couple of thirds years ago, we opened up about the real tension a lot of us carry trying to juggle who we are, what we do, and the pressure to keep showing up strong. It was all about the grind versus the gift. That's why the title is Work, Life, Purpose, The Grind versus the Gift. We haven't caught the episode yet. It's available on all your listening platforms, all social media, including our YouTube channel, whether you enjoy your podcast listening. And in order to understand where we're going today, it might help you to see that conversation. So check it out where you get your podcast. But on part two of the discussion today, we're shifting the focus a little bit. We're keeping the same energy but different focus. We're talking about redefining success and purpose in a way, in a way that fits who we're becoming. Most of us are taught how to work, we're taught how to do all kinds of things, but not align ourselves with what it means to do these things. So, what's success look like now? What's purpose look like when we strip away all the expectations from other people? How do you build a life and a career and a legacy that feels true, that feels authentic? How do you say impress people? Before we get into that intense discussion, which I know is gonna be good, a little housekeeping first. If you want to be a panelist of the Men's Round Table Series podcast, you know what to do. There's a QR code, up right-hand corner of the screen. Click on it, and we have a conversation getting set up between you and I, and we'll get you in here with the rest of the fellas. So let's go ahead and start the conversation right now. But before we do all of that stuff, last thing also, shout out. I wish out all the ladies in our lives, the ones that watch the show from in the compounds of our own homes, friends, family, sisters, the whole nine yards. We love y'all. Thank you for dropping the comments about the show, how much you love it, how much you love it for your uh your husband, your your brother, your son, your father, whoever it is. It matters, but you're never gonna be a guest or a panelist on this show. It's not personal, it's just business. But thank you for all using support, all this stuff. So all that of the way, let's meet our panelists for today. Let's keep it kind of really brief. Who's up first? Who you got?

SPEAKER_01: 2:38

Man, I know how this goes, so I'm gonna just jump in. I'm not gonna wait for the awkward silence. Uh, I'm DL, the low life, man. I'm host of the low life show. Mr. U just basically introduced I'm a brother, I'm a father, most of all, though I'm a servant and a fisher of men. I'm here to help y'all out. Love it. Next.

SPEAKER_07: 2:58

I'll jump in. I am RL Corbett, also known as uh Rod, uh coming from Charleston, South Carolina. Um, like my man said, Mr. Yu already said it. I am a husband, I am a father, I am just all around positivity pusher, trying to do a few things here where I cultivate and inspire achievement and individuals by helping them uh really find out who they are, who God has placed, what God has placed on the inside of them. Uh, so I'm I'm just here, man, to help to grow and help others grow, man. So let's get it.

SPEAKER_05: 3:32

Yes. I'll jump in. Um, Matt Strunk here. Uh also father, husband. Um, I spent the last 20 years of my life chasing all the things I thought would make me feel happy: money, wealth, building businesses, selling companies, and finally figured out that that doesn't necessarily bring fulfillment. So now I've gone down a different path and I'm helping others hopefully try to find uh some meaning in life and and figure out what matters to them. So happy to be here with you guys. I love it, nice.

SPEAKER_03: 4:04

Timothy T. O. Clay, known as Coach T O, owner of T.O. Clay Light Bulb Lessons LLC. What is light? Light is love, intellect, greatness, health, and truth. And no better place in the world would I rather be than to hear right here with these brothers, man. So thank you.

SPEAKER_04: 4:24

Take it to the mirror, baby. Love it. Next.

SPEAKER_12: 4:26

Yes, bro. Hey, so I'm Alalu, Lou Ogan Yemi. I'm a U.S. Marine officer. Shout out to Marines on our 250th this month. Uh, I am a founder of parentchildconnect.com, and it's a platform dedicated to providing resources to parents, teachers, mentors, and caregivers to help raise the next generation of impactful leaders. So very excited to be here with you, gentlemen, and I'm just honored to be a part.

SPEAKER_09: 4:58

Nonprofit and also national speakers, um, travel around the country speaking to NFL um and mostly college football teams and also businesses as well, um, helping people to understand that their purpose and their identity is not in their position, but ultimately into the purpose that God has given them. Um, so I'm happy to be here. Thank you guys.

SPEAKER_06: 5:19

I love it. Thanks. I'm Brent Allen, men's coach and podcaster, helping men pursue purpose over autopilot. I'm a girl dad, a strongman affectionado, and an unapologetic coffee drinker and devotee. Fun fact, I've delivered calves, helped magicians, trained bodies, worked in IT, preached, and now I create content. My resume kind of reads like a glitch in the matrix, and I'm glad to be here.

SPEAKER_00: 5:43

I love that, Brett. That's why I wanted you to go first, man. Um, I came on last. I forgot I should go last. So hello, everybody. Great to see all you guys. My name's Rory Paquette. I uh am a podcast and speaking coach. I'm also the host of six different podcasts, including Power of Man, um, The Podcaster Nation, and uh Wake Up the Lions, just to name a few. Uh, very happy to be here with you guys. We always have a fantastic discussion. Um, I've been a part of a lot of these and uh a lot of really cool faces on here and new ones too. Oh loud, loose shout out to you, brother. Good to see you on here, man. And um, to just honestly looking forward to another great conversation with uh Mr. U.

SPEAKER_04: 6:19

Man, it's very, very good. Nice of you, sir. Thank y'all for jumping in here and sharing about who you are. The world's ready to find out. So thank y'all for doing this. Of course, if you have any have any questions in the comment section, if you're watching and listening, wherever you are, you got questions for the family. Drop your questions, drop your comments. Do not be shy. There's no point to that. You don't get answers by keeping your mouth shut. So please ask questions, share with us what you're thinking about, what you're feeling. You're not by yourself, you're gonna figure it out before the show is over. You're not alone. You feel like you're alone, but that's because you're in isolation, you're not by yourself. All these guys have been through probably what you've been through, too. So we're gonna talk about that. Band of the house for my man Lou. Another ogan year, me in the house. What's up, Daniel? Thanks for jumping in here, brother. QR code upper right hand corner, Daniel. What you waiting for? Get after that, man. Let's go. All right, so uh, we're already rolling. All right, so oh, okay. No comments coming through. No, what's up, brother? Good morning. Good to have you in here, man. Thanks for watching and listening. He's he's so faithful, man. Why are you not in the uh in the conversation? What was happening? Upper right hand corner of the screen, but the QR code, you know what to do, use it. All right, so we were talking last last time about work life and purpose, and we talked about the grind versus the gift. That was an intense conversation. You guys haven't watched the episode, please do go back and check it out. It's I can't believe putting it into words. I'm still I'm still kind of reeling from it because we're like, wow, I think cut me. I can cut everybody else. I'm like, wow, I feel like I've been stabbed, but it's in a good way. But we're talking about reframing the work today and reframing what purpose looks like and legacy, and you're kind of just dealing with that from our room of experience and hoping we help each other in the process, man. But let's kind of talk about uh what success looks like, how do we measure it? So I'm putting the question out here to all you guys and all everybody that's watching and listening. How do you measure success now? So we would some people do it in dollars, some people do it in peace, some people do it in impact, or something else that I didn't name. How do you measure success today? Jump in popcorn style, however, you want to do that.

SPEAKER_00: 8:25

I'll jump with that if that's all right. Okay, um, you know, that's uh that I love that question because you know, as an old guy, I might be the oldest guy on the panel, uh, but as an old guy, that that that uh that has changed over the years a lot. Um, you know, as to when I was in my 20s, my thirties, my 40s, I mean, success always looked a lot different. And also where I was with my kids, where I was in my marriage, uh, that success piece has looked a lot different over the years. And now where I am, you know, success is really just measured um almost day by day. And it's kind of like, you know, did I do something today that is getting me closer to you know any of my goals? And my goals, of course, have changed. So, you know, now it's not about like world domination and you know, trying to, you know, amass millions and millions of dollars, which you know it didn't quite work. But um, you know, now it's about uh it is about peace, it's about providing uh my wife uh with all the things that she gave up on, you know, and that type of thing. She sacrificed a ton of her life to do what we did with our kids. So she's my main focus now. And so every day, if I end the day and I know I did something that got me closer to giving her something back, then that's my success. And I think that it just is really different for everybody. So looking forward to the answers.

SPEAKER_11: 9:48

You and you and I Indiana or are you just a fan or what?

SPEAKER_00: 9:51

Uh both. I'm in Indiana and I'm an IU fan.

SPEAKER_11: 9:54

Okay, awesome, awesome. Um, a few years ago I used to serve as Indiana Hoosers team chaplain. Um, so I I spent some time in Bloomington and also the head coach there, Kurt Signetti. I was I was his chaplain at JMU, so I I represent yeah, I support IU as well. But I think you um your your answer was about on connections. Oh, yeah, yeah, connections. Um, in fact, I meet with a a a group of men every Friday um from Bloomington, Indiana at 6:30 um every Friday morning and for an hour. So anyway, that cup kind of definitely blessed me to be able to see that. Um, but to answer the question about success, and um ultimately, you know, what I've had to learn is that God is the one that determines um purpose, he's the one that determines, you know, where we're going. And so um you talked about your wife and and and her sacrifice. You know, I was a professional um football player, and my wife sacrificed. She was a stay-at-home mom. Um, she sacrificed a lot. In fact, she was going for her dream, but then I got called, and so we kind of put her dream on, you know, on pause so that I can pursue what I thought was success was for our family. Um, fast forward five years later, six years later, I I basically tell people I'm a stay-at-home dad, right? Um, because now I have the opportunity to serve my wife um in the dentistry field. Her dream was to always be a pediatric dentist, which she is accomplished that. Um, she's in her, she got about six more months before she becomes, you know, fully um certified as a pediatric dentist. And I, because I've seen her sacrifice for me, it made it easy for me to sacrifice for her, right? At first I was battling against the whole man, I ain't I don't know about this. You know, as a man, I just don't know. Like this just don't work well with me. But I do have the opportunity to travel and speak. So I still work, right? Um, you know, I speak up probably about 10 times a month on average, maybe even more. Um, but all of those are just going in and coming back home, right? I'm not like trying to stay, I'm trying to make impact, right? I'm trying to plant seeds and and and knowing that that's okay. At some point, you can make an argument like, oh, well, somebody else can make an argument, like, no, I like being there to water the seeds, to nurture the seeds, to do all of this because that's where I see the true impact. And I can feel like bad about that. Like, man, I don't get to cultivate and really get to spend time and all of those things, but that's not the season that I'm in right now, right? And so there was a point in time I was in a season at Indiana team chaplain in the trenches with those guys every day, Michael Penits Jr., um, you know, who just got hurt again for the Atlanta Falcons. I have a picture with him when he went through, I was with him in his first injury that he had at IU. Those moments mean a lot to me. And so, anyway, I don't want to continue to talk, but I just want to share, you know, success. We have to, in my book titled Purpose of a Position, um, chapter three is titled Redefine Success. And the reason why I had to redefine success is because I was going based on my six-year-old dream that I had when I was a six-year-old, and that was still kind of leading me. And I realized that that no longer that uh that's cool, that got me far, but is that my reality and is that what God is calling me to today? And so um we we have to go through a process of redefining success almost, like you said, Rory, almost every day.

SPEAKER_05: 14:14

Yeah, I think I'd like to uh piggyback off that, Rory. I um, well, both of you guys, but I I definitely resonate with the chasing the traditional measures of success when I was younger, of like, oh, because I grew up poor and everything else. I'm like, I I must need money or status or something to be happy because this shit ain't working. So let me figure out. And uh eventually I learned that wasn't it. And I think today I approach life as far as you know, how do I measure success? Comes down to authenticity to me. Am I living a life based on my truth? Period. So I think we define that ourselves and whether or not we actually live a life in alignment with that is is my kind of measure there. Because I think a lot of us are influenced by expectations of society, expectations of parents, peers, whatever it might be, and we might not even realize it the ways it manifests in our life. So for me, it's just I wake up and I go, I know who I am now, I know what's important to me, and I'm gonna live life aligned with that, and and that's it, you know. And ever since I've kind of changed my focus on that, it's amazing how much easier everything seems to go, you know. Even the the money and the things I used to chase after, those things become easier when I don't really care about it because it's just I'm just doing me, you know. Um, so yeah, so that's my take on that.

SPEAKER_04: 15:37

Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Anyone else?

SPEAKER_01: 15:40

I'm gonna pick you back off that. Oh los you're new here, brother. Let me hear I want to hear you speak. I I talk too damn much.

SPEAKER_12: 15:48

Oh, sorry about that. Uh as the young Padawan, I guess I should speak up for all you uh old heads on the call. Yeah, so for for me, I'm just joking. I'm sorry, don't beat me up, please, and invite me back next time. Uh, so for me, uh I just uh juggled with this and I journaled about this just yesterday when it talks about what a success look like, and I love what you guys are talking about, some of those measurements that we we may have had in the past, and whether it be overtaking the world or becoming a millionaire or whatever it may be, uh I think I had to learn that the hard way. Uh, and then I so yesterday when I journaled, I was just thinking about an analogy. And the way I ended my journal is uh the one thing I know is when you're trying to build something, sometimes you're so close that you can't see what you're building, you can't see the structure forming. And so what I look at as I define success as is all those bricks, brick by brick land and just trust in the process. So every single day when you're going in and you're doing uh your podcasting or you're doing your recordings or your articles, your blogs, whatever you're doing, for me, I learned that every single day uh that I do something towards achieving my goals or achieving my success, uh, that truly is what success is for me. It's just going in and having that consistent, those small actions that will actually equal wins in the future. So yeah, sorry to cut you off, but you know, that's really where I come from and how I define success.

SPEAKER_01: 17:11

No cutting me off, brother. I need it sometimes. Um, I want to speak to what you talked about, Matt. You talked about knowing who you are, talked about that being, you know, being in alignment with that truth. The thing that comes to mind, and you guys have seen me do this, our identity's hidden in Christ, right? I think about Jesus. I think about he said he is the truth, right? So when we're in alignment with him, everything does come easier. Um, and the interesting thing about it is like I look at my history, right? Metrics for me, much like probably most of you, right, were dollars things, right? You never know if you have enough stuff until you have too much, right? So it's like nothing exceeds like excess. I would keep going, okay. I need a bigger house, I need more cars, and found nothing because I always was seeking someone else's opinion in it. Today's success for me is kingdom impact, right? For one soul saved, the heavens rejoice. And if I if I know God is up there, like, I'm like, okay, I'm successful, even if my wallet's empty and my cupboard might be bare, even if my cup is only half full. For me, if I know that those around me are making their way to a better life, that's success for me, right? Like it's the field that I work in. I'm I work to make people better in every way, shape, and form that I possibly can. You know, we think about nature and nurture. Naturally, I'm good at certain things that probably would make me successful in the eyes of man. But I would rather nurture the environment around me with those things that I'm naturally good at, even if that means that some of those things aren't gonna give me worldly success, even if those that means I might have to settle for five figures instead of seven. And you know, I mean, I've been a six-figure man, and that's not fun. It's not fun for me. So I for me, it's just kingdom impact, man. Kingdom impact. If I can get win one soul for God, I'm good. You can keep the millions, but I will take them if they're coming with that.

SPEAKER_07: 19:11

I'm gonna jump in right here behind DL real quick because man, you you took it out of my mouth, man. I was just talking to my wife last night, and I was saying, uh, I just turned 43 on Monday, and I was just reflecting over my life and some things. I was just telling her, I know, I was like, at some point, success for me shifted. It was no longer about income or profits, and it shifted to impact. And uh, as far as on my nine to five, you know, I'm thinking about that, and then I started to realize how I was even walking in my purpose unknowingly on a job that I am in based on the impact that I was having on my co-workers. And uh one by one, they were coming and telling me that they look up to me uh for certain other different reasons, meaning uh our job can be very stressful, and they look at how I'm always at peace and they look up to that, and then I was able to then drop a seat. Well, I only have peace because it's God in me. You know, I keep my I'm focused on Him, so He keeps me in perfect peace, you know. So each each time I'm able to drop a little gem and I'm able to see the light bulb come on or encourage someone just by just by living who God has called me to be, not even trying to, not even trying to do anything, just by following him, I'm impacting others' lives. So it was no longer about money, it was more about impact. Family side, because now I'm no longer really focused on money. Don't get me wrong, I'm still driven to provide for my family, and I'm still driven to protect my family. I've been, we as men that has been graining us since we were young, young. But the other part of that, now that I'm focused on impact, most of us have not been focused on being the other thing that we're supposed to be. That is the priest and the prophet for our families. So focusing on God, am I setting designated time for my family to worship? Am I teaching them? Am I watching my wife and the word like the like I'm supposed to? Am I being the prophet, meaning I'm speaking over my family? I'm calling the things out that we're going to do. I'm sitting down with God, finding out, okay, God, what is our family focus for this year? So am I being the priest and the prophet over my family? Am I covering my family? Am I leading my family the way God intended me to? Yes, I know how to protect and I know how to provide, but am I prophesying? Am I being the priest?

SPEAKER_04: 21:52

I love it. To I want to uh I want to I want to give you this next question because the only one that has a unique take on this, but I want to hear your thoughts on this one because most of us we we do things that are non-traditional when it comes to work. Most people who are on this uh stage right now. I want to ask you to kick it off for us. Uh, what's it look like to work with purpose rather than just simply working for provision? And kind of share, if you can, where you're seeing purpose in your work. And I want everybody else to kind of follow that example. So that makes sense. What's it look like to work with purpose and not just work for provision? And then kind of what does it look like? How do you know that you know you're purposeful in what you do? How where you see any impacts? I want everybody to kind of answer that if you can do that. But TO, kick it off for us, right? Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03: 22:41

Um you remember back in the days, fellas, regardless of where you're from, you've probably heard it, but used to hear people talk about purping. Like, man, you frightened, man, you purping. You know, stop purping, man. Um that came to my spirit when I think about purpose, man. Because everything that I just particularly heard from VAD all the way to O to Matt, R L, Rory, everybody, man, is is speaking in ways, man, that it's like, wow, bro, it if you're listening out there, you know, I know one of my partners is listening right now, Anthony Cuttnot. Anthony Cuttnot understands what's being said because he's living in that same purpose. He understands that every day's not going to look the same. He understands that life is going to keep life. He understands that every time we get we we make that pursuit and moving closer to God, Satan, the enemy, is trying his best to come and stop it. You know, listening to RL, man, and I'm thinking to myself, like, bruh, what he just said, bro, we we literally could turn it off, bro. Not that we're going to, but what RL just said, man, many of us we're stuck in titles, we're stuck in positions, we're stuck, you know, chasing, we're stuck purping, you know, and and the purpose sometimes gets lost in just within that translation. When I when I look at purpose over position, brother badly, you know, I'm a I'm a Louisville fan, man. Shout out to Indiana, though. I got I got respect for Indiana. I love y'all. Um, but you know, I think about like, man, this this gentleman is a is a chaplain. This gentleman's pouring into individuals that's at high, high positions, man. But sometimes they be the most, you know, screwed up. Sometimes they be the most lost. Sometimes they're the ones that's trying to figure out, you know, life outside of what we see on TV, sitting back thinking that's the goal. So when I think of purpose and provision, uh, brother you, man, you know me, man. I I get hyped up, bro, because I'm like, man, wow. Um my purpose is, you know, it is back then, God, bro. It's that simple. I say it every single day. If you look at any content that I've ever put out, man, I say all we need is seven, and seven is God. That's it. You know, not to say that, hey, we don't need support of our spouse, not to say we don't need, you know, that tender love from our children. But man, if you do not have God, bruh, in everything that you do, you know, I'm telling you, bruh, it's it's it's not gonna come into fruition in which you may expect. So uh purposeful driven, man. Like I said, man, perfect. You know, a lot of a lot of people are are not looking within themselves, man, and really uh getting on their knees, man, old school style, putting their hands up to the Lord, man, and saying, Father God, woe is me, a wretch is me, Father God. Use me for the purpose of the kingdom. Because if it's not that, everything else is in vain, brother.

SPEAKER_11: 25:50

Thanks. Yes, sir. You preaching. Uh man, uh, you you're preaching now, and um, I I love that. Um, you know, you got me wanting to throw I I think of David when he says, I lift my my hands as even in offerings unto you, even just a simple act of lifting up your hands, it can be an offering unto the Lord, right? And and on and uh and an opportunity to surrender your will, not my will, but your will be done, right? It's it's so interesting. That question is so interesting. Well, first of all, another Louisville, another connection. Um, so I graduated from James Madison. I started off at Georgia Tech, then graduated at JMU, and our only loss this year is to Louisville. So we we're on the borderline of making the playoffs, and we need Louisville to keep winning. Y'all letting us down, bro. We need y'all to keep winning so that can speak to our schedule.

SPEAKER_03: 26:37

It's moss, bro. They got to do something with moss, bro. You already know.

SPEAKER_11: 26:41

But I I will tell you, um, it's so interesting, and this will answer my question too. Um, it's so interesting. Y'all last opponent, Louisville, y'all played against Clemson, right? Um, last week I had an opportunity to go to Clemson um before the game, before that game, I had an opportunity to go to Clemson to speak to the team, and it hit me. It dawned on me. Um, actually, Dabo Sweeney ended up um giving me a shout out in this press conference after they won, which I didn't ask for that. I can't make that up, right? I can't, I can't do that. I can't, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know that that's coming. And but here's the thing one of the things that hit me while I was in the room is you know, these college athletes are getting paid. You know, when I go speak to these NFL teams, you know, these guys are getting paid, you know, all these guys getting paid the big buck. And as I'm there to share, it hit me. I'm like, yo, I'm the brokest dude in the room. Like, I'm I'm like everybody around me is making millions and thousands of dollars, but yet I get the opportunity to come and share the gospel, which makes me the richest dude in the room. You know what I mean? Which makes me the most, like, I ain't I ain't trying to be prideful or anything, but I get to, you know, Jesus says all authority has been given unto me. When he said that, he was saying, I have been given all authority because of sin has entered the picture from the very beginning. I now have reclaimed that authority and now I'm giving it unto you. That is purposeful. I'm giving it unto you to go and share to everybody else, right? And so, bro, like I didn't even know where I was going with that. But when you talk about Louisville, and then I thought about Dabo's comments in the press conference, and then I also thought about how I felt. Man, that is purpose, right? Purpose supersedes money, it supersedes how much you know somebody else got it. It it you know, you don't focus on who got this platform, you don't focus on all of these things, you just focus because a lot of things I do people don't get to see, right? I'm in the I'm in the room with these guys that are hurting, right? I have one NFL player, I just played a song at the end, and dude was crying for 20 minutes, and I got to just hang out with him. I didn't know what was going on, right? I don't know what's going on, but I know that the Holy Spirit knows, and I know that God knows. So, man, this is an opportunity to just be present. And what I love about this call so far, man, there's I'm I'm a big, this may sound weird, but um, I love P words. I don't know why. P words are just like a big thing to me. So I know that sounds weird, but we're talking about um my my brother RL. He he talked about being the prophet and the priest of the home. Man, I had to write that down. We're talking about provision, we're talking about protection, we're talking about purpose. Man, I had to write that down. We're talking about being present, like look at all these P words, right? Don't don't get your mind in the gutters, right? But look at all look at all these purposeful words, I should say, that we are sharing. So, man, thank you for firing me up. I just feel like going into prayer right now. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_04: 29:43

So we were getting deplatformed there for a minute. I'm like, oh my god, this is the man.

SPEAKER_11: 29:48

That that should be the soundbite for this for this for this whole thing. Hey man, I love P words. That should be the start of this episode.

SPEAKER_01: 29:58

Here's a P word we're gonna trash right now, pride. We're gonna trash that one right now. So TL spoke to it. There's this man, one of these names, right? We call him Jyra, our provider. So when we're talking about provision and purpose, when we find that identity to follow, to seek after him, right? I put that in the chat, but Matthew 6 33, right? Seek after the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. He's the provider when we can become humble enough to acknowledge that, that all good and perfect things come from him, when we can acknowledge that, right? That that's him, we find our purpose. I don't think it's necessarily a purpose or provision, right? It's coming into alignment with with where that provision comes from. Then that a lot then that purpose is just it becomes more clear. Um, I can tell you in my life, when when I started doing that more and more intentionally, man, if I told you, we don't have enough time on this call, but if I told you the last two years how everything has just fallen into place after everything crashing down, going to prison, that's another P word that we can trash. Uh but after doing all that and then just finding this acknowledgement, this posture that would tell me that Jyra is my provider. I don't have to consider provision. Now, let me preface we do have to steward things, we do have to provide things for those that are around us. We do. But when we acknowledge that our ability to provide is provided from him, when we acknowledge that our ability to understand these things comes from him, right? The alignment works and purpose is just that much more easy. It's not uh to me, it's not an it's not an either or, it's a both and and it's not one over the other. Uh, I believe that they work in conjunction with another, with one another. Um, it's a it's a collaborative effect, right? Purpose and provision, they go hand in hand.

SPEAKER_04: 31:56

Gotcha. Thank you, DR. Very good. Who's next?

SPEAKER_12: 31:59

Yeah, I actually have another P word in simply keeping with the P words, like Vad said. Uh Peking. Uh, and I know that's not an actual purposeful word, uh, but that's the restaurant I worked at in college. It's Peking Chinese restaurant. And when you're talking about working for provisions, uh, I remember like being there. My name tag said server, and I absolutely hated that. Why? Because I was like, man, that's demeaning, right? Because when you see server on my chest, that means you think you can crack your crab legs open and throw them on the floor. That means you can leave me a you know 25 cent tip. That means you could just do whatever you want. And that's how I felt in college. And I talked to a lot of people who have that same feeling as they're going through their day-to-day, they feel like that they just have to provide. So they're just grinding, grinding, grinding to provide for their families. And what I had to learn in that position, especially wearing the name tag server and taking offense to how people used to treat me, I had to learn that there's still purpose, even in that position. So when I was at Peking at a Chinese restaurant on waiting tables and I'm running around, you know, nothing stopped me from smiling. Right. So I'm at a Peking Chinese restaurant with Lou on my chest and server under my name. And I'm like, man, you know what? I'm just gonna smile and be myself, I'm be happy, I'm gonna be the one bouncing around from wall to wall. And people begin to enjoy that. And people started requesting me, which I thought was funny, at a Chinese restaurant in Ruston, Louisiana. People were requesting me as they walked in and said, Hey, man, can we get a loo? Can we set a loose table? So much so that at times, like the manager would have to say, you know what, we can't, we can't do that, right? He has too many tables, we have to spread it out. But why? It's because I learned how to pursue my purpose even in that position. And I think that's the hard part when you are in a position, you're in a job where you're thinking, you know, I just have to make money. I mean, I was making$2.18 per hour plus tips. And so you have to grind for your tips. And at some point, I'm just like, dude, I don't have time to think about, you know, the future. I just need to grind now. So for those out there who are just in the grind mode and they're trying to figure out how they're going to uh work through this job that they're in, they can't see, you know, really where they're going. They can't even think about their purpose because they're just grinding and trying to make money for their family. I have to tell you that there's a way to find your purpose no matter where you are. And if I could find it at Peking Chinese restaurant, I'll give you, I'll tell you now, you can find it wherever you are. You can invest in yourself and find your purpose.

SPEAKER_06: 36:59

I'll jump on that behind Lou because you it took me a minute. I wanted to key in and make sure I'm understanding the conversation. And I mean, the Bible tells us, right, you do all things as you were doing from God. I mean, just flat out. We're we're commanded by our Father to do all things. I've heard so many men like get into this frustration of, well, I don't really feel like I'm serving my purpose in the role I have, right? Well, we can do all things like we're doing them unto God, right? You don't see it necessarily. We we like to see the stage. Everybody wants to see the stage, they want to be part of the show, right? We see the guy preaching from the pulpit, we see the guy on YouTube sharing what God's doing or something else, right? We see those things and go, Oh, they're doing something. What am I doing? Well, you have no idea what you're doing. Our our vision is not that big, right? You don't know how you are serving, but doing it like you're doing it for God, you have no idea the ripples that that's going to affect, right? Lou is smiling at people. You know how many people just desperately need somebody to smile at them so they don't feel crap about themselves. Like I make it a purpose to smile or try to remember to smile at everybody I interact with, from the nice ladies at the checkout counter at my grocery store to the server at the restaurant to the person in the fast food window, because I know their day sucks, right? I try and smile at everybody, it's a little thing, but you know, I have no idea how that's gonna impact somebody, and that's not my responsibility. My responsibility is just to do my best, but I want to take this another direction, right? What happens when you start pursuing your purpose and you're crossing in that area of provision, right? Because that's such a head, heavy thing for men, right? We we are drilled, we've had the same instruction set for a thousand years. Provide, provide. That is your worth, provide what happens when you start to pursue purpose and provision becomes really tight because of it. My dad was a minister for 47 years, y'all. We only survived. I swear I love the man. We survived because my grandmother lived with us. My grandfather had a tremendous provision uh pension, so she had money to help. My father never made them more than$40,000 a year in his entire life, and he preached in the Seattle Tacoma area. And that's always been ridiculously expensive, right? I gave up a lot of financial security to pursue what I do now. I made a lot more money, y'all, when I was doing IT. Um, I gave up a lot of that security. My wife believes in it enough that she took a part-time job to help pay for things while we're making this transition because she believes in what we're doing. Right. But there is that head space where it's like, I know I have a pursuit, a purpose. And I I tried to live my purpose when I was doing my other job. I tried to live every day doing my best for God. But when your purpose starts to steer you into what we say, hey, financial instability, and you start going, Oh, can I really do that? Am I allowed to do that? And you start having that one-on-one conversation with God, it's like, am I pursuing where God takes me, regardless of provision or feeling like I'm providing? Right? At what point do you step out on faith in that provision?

SPEAKER_05: 40:56

I feel like you I feel like you kind of just said it. Faith, right? Like to me, because I yeah, um like I've been in a place where I've just been tanking financially, just bleeding out everywhere, trying to trying to do what I feel like is my purpose, and I've had to at times be willing to fully just trust and let go and and trust in the path and what will be will be. And it's worked out thus far, but you know, I I think for me at least it's been an exercise of faith. Can can I can I let go and just let it be? And yeah, that's that's what I got for that part.

SPEAKER_04: 41:45

Oh, that's good, man. Thank you, Matt. A couple of comments jumping in, man. I'll a brother from another, Emilia Roman. This is the leader of men as well, man. If you'll know him, good chance to get to know him. Check him out. You can find him on Facebook. Familia, go with that. Good to see you, man. We got a comment from one of our sisters out here. Love to hear men talk about God. I'm hearing that so much from ladies. And what is that? What did that tell you? I'm hearing, I'm hearing it so much. It's like, what is what is that? What does that indicate? I mean, we drive in our car, we see a red light. We know a red light means stop in some places it means speed up, but it's supposed to mean stop because I'm hearing all these ladies, sisters, mothers, daughters, all over the country, Tyler. And they say comment just like this one. So I'm glad that we're honoring that and we're stepping up where we need to be, man. So look to hear men talk about God. I do too. Awesome. Who's next on that question? If not, we'll move forward.

SPEAKER_07: 42:42

I'll jump in real quick. I don't I don't want to pass by here. He said uh something that triggered me. He said, stepping out on faith. Now, uh, my mind goes back to Peter, and we've all heard the sermon or uh scriptures about him stepping out of the boat and him him walking on water, and then him noticing what's going on around him and him sinking, and then Jesus reaching down and picking him up. But something about that story, the first thing we have to do before we step out of the boat, we have to do what Peter did. He had to first recognize that whatever he was getting into, he had to recognize it was God first. Once he recognized it was God, he had to ask, can I come? and ask for permission to step out. Then once he asked for permission, then he began to walk, but then he did lose focus and he began to sink. And and and it tells me a few things. A lot of times, when we're what we call stepping out on faith, sometimes it's not faith, sometimes we're motivated by fear, and sometimes we're stepping out on our own accord, and then after we're out, we're trying to introduce God into it. When if we go to God first and get his permission, I feel that he's going to provide, he's going to keep you, and then you can't get focused on what's going on around you. You have to stay focused on him, and he will lead you and guide you, he will direct your path. Things will get hard, you will be in the fire, but you won't be burned, you know. It won't overtake you. But we have to first recognize it's him, and we have to seek his direction in it. We can't just jump out and then try to introduce him into it because what we jump out into might not be him, and he might let you fall just to teach you a lesson, and then sometimes we go through it so we can then be the example for others, but we have to keep we have to again go to him first, seek him first, count the cost, because he also tells you that too count the cost, and and it's certain things that we you know we we have to do if we're truly stepping out on faith. We can't step out and then say, Okay, God, where are you? And he never told you to get out the boat.

SPEAKER_03: 45:12

So, thank you, sir. It's it's the other way around. He's he's saying, Adam, where are you? Adam, where are you? You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, hey, brother, you you you need that you need that bull horn, bruh. You you just need to blast that on dog with some of the jewelers that's being dropped, man. That that P man, I'm so happy, brother Vibe brought that up because those P words, man. That privacy and prayer, bruh. That privacy of prayer. That young lady that said, man, I love seeing man talk about God. Then we are we really doing this?

SPEAKER_04: 45:52

Are we gonna talk P words for the rest of the show? Seriously, hey, let's go.

SPEAKER_03: 45:58

Let's go, bruh. Hey, dog, if you don't feel it right now, bruh, like whoever's watching, listening, wherever you located, if you don't feel the power of God moving within this atmosphere right now, you are out of your freaking mind because you can feel it, man. The power, the power of God is here, bro. They they say, Hey, we're two or three gather, man. Um but that that private prayer, man. I just have to say it, brother. You that private prayer, man. It's it and and and me and brother DL, last time we was on together, we was talking about that 19-year-old. That 19-year-old is still out there, you know. Who whoever you are out there right now, you're hearing all these brothers, you see, you see African-American faces, you see Caucasian faces, you see brothers that's you know, working as this capacity, this capacity. It none of that matters, bro. Fix your mindset and your heart and your spirit on God. You know, everything else, it's a farce, bro. I've I've been on this campaign, brothers, where I'm like, man, it is is the coolest thing, the dopest thing, the the illest thing, the the most fire thing, whatever way of looking at it you want to say is is is following God, bro. There's nothing else out there, bro, more tighter than following God. And like brother RL said earlier, man, you will see the fruits of that. You will see if you pray specific and private with the Lord, he's going to answer for whatever that may be. It may not come when you want it, it may not come how you want it, but if your heart is earnest and pure, another P P word. If your heart is pure, bro, you know, you gotta take you, he'll take you wherever, and and and you'll be covered, man. So just had to say that, man. A RL got me inspired over here, bro.

SPEAKER_04: 47:59

Thank you, brother. I'm gonna hold the next comment. Hold on. I see your mouth moving. Hold on one second, man. I want to give some shout-outs to the comment section real quick. We got three more questions I gotta ask before the show ends. I can't put these on the uh cutting room floor, so be brief with your comments and come up. But first off, I'm gonna talk about uh look that's my queen right there. Respect her, or you or you get bounced. That's my queen right there. Thank you, baby. Love it. All right, sister said you're bringing faith in here, new direction, sister. You ain't been watching this show. We talk faith every single time we come out here at the box. This ain't nothing just new to you, but stay with us, you hear it all the time. We do that all the time for over an hour every single month. So stay with us, thanks for listening. Love it. All right, so Brent, you next, right? Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06: 48:46

Oh man, I gotta I gotta throw in one more P if we're gonna talk about P words. That is that's procrastination, and that is the stumbling block between provision and purpose. A lot of times we hear a calling, we hear God moving us in a direction, that bullhorn, that calling, where God is trying to move us towards purpose, and we procrastinate on that because we're holding on to that provision, that safety. We're staying in the boat. I love that story about Peter. It's my favorite story in the Bible because Peter was the only one, he gets trash all the time for being kind of rash. He's the only one with enough faith to even step out of the boat. He is the only human being in history to walk on water, even if it was for a second. All those other disciples, they're staying in the safety of the boat because they procrastinated. They're like, uh, right. And unfortunately, when we procrastinate on what God is moving us towards, towards our purpose, sometimes God moves past that and goes, Okay, I'm I still have to get this accomplished, so I'm gonna give this to Brother Lou over here, and he's gonna take on what you were supposed to be doing because you wouldn't step out of the boat. All right, all right, let's move on.

SPEAKER_04: 50:03

I got to, man. We got to take it.

SPEAKER_01: 50:05

Can I can I just say one thing real quick, brother you for the 19-year-old? All right, come on, D Yeah, come on. Really quick. Let's not mistake ambition for stepping out in faith. Ambition tends to do that a lot. I just want to say that for the listener out there.

SPEAKER_04: 50:20

I love that. I love that. All right, so I would ask you a quick question because the two the two other ones are a little bit bigger, a little bit meaty, I think. For you guys specifically, how do you connect purpose and connection with other men? I mentioned that because we do this, and I'm hearing from you guys personal testimonies. Another word, here we go, another P word. I hear I'm hearing personal testimonies from other men, from you guys, people in your life, in your sphere of influence. Uh, and they are saying that this show has impacted them in such a way that their lives have changed, their approach has changed. Here's another P word. I didn't I didn't plan it, their perspective has changed on where they are in life and where they want to be. And from what you're telling me, what screenshots you sent me, people who are watching this are feeling that uh they're feeling that pull. Here we go. What's up, sweetie P. Good to see you, sweetie. But uh, so it's impact it. But how do you guys uh connect purpose and connection together? Because as men, we can come together and just be in the same room and not really connect. We can be uh have a lack of intention about responding back to messages and shit guys in the house. What's up, big boy? Okay, you learned it, man. All right, so so this is what happens. So you guys do with that because you have to connect with other men is kind of what you do, it's important to you. How do you connect purpose to that? Answer those as brief as you can, please, so we can keep moving forward. Go ahead. Who's first?

SPEAKER_01: 51:58

Let me throw out a P word real quick. Oh Lord, presence, presence, be present, man. There's nothing more valuable in a relationship between purpose, provision, and people, another P uh than being present, right? And and the thing that comes to mind when uh TO was talking about the power, man. The spirit of the Lord is there's freedom, his presence, man. That's what it's all about. We don't have to worry about tomorrow, we don't have to regret yesterday, right? We be present, man. There's presence in presence.

SPEAKER_04: 52:32

And we love it. Oliver, thanks for jumping in, brother. We love it too, man. Upper right-hand corner of the screen, QR code. Jump in there, brother. Love to have you. All right, who next?

SPEAKER_12: 52:42

Yeah, so I'll I'll talk about it a little bit. So I think the biggest thing that we have to do uh as men is stop competing. I know a lot of times that's in in our blood, we love that competition. Don't get me wrong, there's healthy competition, uh, but there's also that unhealthy competition where we're tearing each other down just so we can get the leg up. And I think that's one of the biggest things when we're starting to connect instead of just compete. Uh, and the second part about that is stop projecting, I did it, uh, stop projecting your own insecurities on someone else. And I think that's really what happens when we're in the the creative world. Sometimes we're insecure, and so when we connect to somebody else, we start projecting our own insecurities towards them and we start trying to tear them down, and that's that unhealthy competition I'm talking about. So we just had to grow through that and learn how to be you know supportive of each other and continue to grow and develop each other.

SPEAKER_00: 53:32

I'll jump in on that one if that's right. Um first let me just get caught up. I uh I prefer to purport my personal opinion on the preferred um uh platform here. So, did we get caught up now? Am I back in the game? Okay, um, as far as this goes. Um, I'll throw a couple more out there for you. I mean, I've been over here thinking about this, listen to all you guys. So um I I think the uh I love what you guys are saying about this when it comes to connection and men and purpose. I think part of what we miss is that as men, I think that we have to be purposeful about our connection with men, you know, because I think it's like we expect it to happen. You know, hey, you know, I'm a guy, so there's other guys, we're just gonna connect, I'm gonna find brothers. Look, in this world, we're not out there, you know, in groups, in organizations, hanging out, you know, uh working together. We don't get to do that. All of our time right now is spent really working, providing, um, protecting, taking care of all these other you know, P words that I can continue to come up with. Um as we as we take care of our families, you know, and so I think a lot of guys are like, well, I just don't happen to know any other guys. I don't happen to have a brotherhood. You gotta be purposeful about going out there and finding a brotherhood. You have to say this is important to me. So I'm going to go out and I'm going to, on purpose, find something where I'm a part of the overall product. Now I'm done.

SPEAKER_04: 54:55

Out of the mouth of Rory Pocket. This is gonna be all night long, right here. All right, who's next, real quick, man? Anybody else? If not, we're gonna keep moving. TikTok. All right, let's just keep going. All right, so for you guys, because this is always a part of our conversation, kind of hard to get around it because we have multi-generations that are part of the panel and that are listening. Case in point, Brad got his son in his arm. That's another generation right there. Our people who are gonna see things that uh the generations after him won't be but he can't understand it. He's gonna see he's gonna see purpose and victory from a whole different level, a whole different perspective again. So uh what does legacy mean to you guys in the context of what we're talking about? We're talking about values and growth, and we're talking about purpose, but legacy, what's it mean? Like, what does it mean from your standpoint with the work that you do? Because let's be real about it. A lot of people that we know know gender men, women, it's just kind of the same. They look at the work that they do and they look at that as you know what, this is who I am, this is what I do, this is what makes me me. This gives me identity. But the work that you guys don't want to hear your personal perspective, the work that you're doing, describe for us, for the listeners and the viewers, what legacy looks like. It moves past the whole my vision is so important idea, and legacy goes beyond that and starts branching out into you know what you can pass down, what you can duplicate yourself in. It goes it goes further than just you know the work I do full time or part-time. So, kind of real quick, if you can, please, if you don't mind, be uh deliberate about that. What does legacy look like in the work that you're doing right now? I want to hear from everybody on this one, real quick, if you don't mind, please. Thank you. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06: 56:43

I'll jump in. Legacy for me looks like one episode at a time. If I produce one episode and one person out of however many countries, out of however many thousand downloads hears that, takes it to heart, and it improves not just their lives, but the lives of the people around them because they made those choices. That's legacy. I will never see what that does. But my work touching somebody else's lives in a positive way and them taking that a step farther, that's legacy.

SPEAKER_02: 57:14

Okay, next.

SPEAKER_04: 57:15

Good stuff, man. Thank you, Brad. Greg, who's next? That's way past three Mississippi's, y'all. Come on, who's next?

SPEAKER_05: 57:22

I can jump in then. Um, yeah, I would tend to agree. I think, you know, a lot of what I do is I look around of you know, friends, coworkers, people I know, people are like sleepwalking. They're sick, unwell, distracted. You know, they're binging on TikTok for hours and hours. They're just not well. And, you know, Brian, I think in your your subtitle, it mentions about purpose over autopilot. So many people are living on autopilot. And I just like, wake up, wake up. You know, it's like, come on, man. There's like, there's so much more to life. And if you're not careful, the world is just filled with these distractions and things that keep us stuck exactly where we are. So, my my legacy is like, you know, again, one person, if I can help one person wake up and find that truth that we've been discussing this this whole call, shit. I'm doing all right then. Because that will continue to spread. Just takes one light and that light keeps shining, and then all of a sudden, you know, the shadows start to go away. And it's just that. So that's me. Yeah. Wake up and start living the life you were meant to live. That's what I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_02: 58:32

Let's do it next.

SPEAKER_07: 58:38

Um, I'm with Matthew on that. It's it's all about helping individuals wake up and see who they really are, that they are who God says they are and not who the world says they are. Um, we're we're so influenced by social media and um the fear of missing out and and and trying to be what what society says we are, and not really realizing that it's all a facade. None of it is really real. Um, so just get to the core of who you are and bring that out and be who God has called you to be and not who social media says that you're supposed to be, um, especially when it comes to men. We we hear so many things about what a real man is, and it's all coming from people who are not men, uh, you know, and I'm not saying females in general, but I'm also talking about males because there's a difference between a male and a man. There's a lot of males out there, but it's not a lot of men, um, as far as society. And again, I'm I'm trying to rush this real quick. And I and I was trying to tell uh on on the side of social media, and it's not that men are not present, and it's not that good fathers are not there, it's just that we've been quiet and we've been quiet too long. The squeaky wheel is what gets the oil. So they believe that real men don't exist because real men are not speaking. That's why I'm glad for this platform so you can actually see different and say we are present, and this is how we really operate, this is who we are. This is not get off of social media and let's connect as men, grow as men, and then walk in our purpose and begin to teach. Because believe it or not, it's the fathers that are really supposed to be teaching, and we we we place that too much on the mothers. So we we need to stand in our purpose, be who God called us to be. And I'm gonna jump to like two different so many different ways just now. Uh, but just stand up in your purpose and who God has called you to be, and be who just be who you're supposed to be. Just be. That's it. Just be.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:46

I love it. Very passionate point. Who's next? I'll jump in, man. Everybody's been talking about that one more legacy for me. Is one less, one less person stuck in addiction, one less person trapped in a box, one less person going to prison, one less person that feels like they are stuck. That's legacy for me. If there's one listener out there that from just this panel here, not even me, I'm I'm just a participant here. But if there's one person out there who's listening, watching, that does that gains freedom from this, right? He's no longer stuck. That's legacy.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:22

Thank you. Yeah, man. I I would say legacy, man. I want to just stand at the throne and I want to hear job well done, my good and faithful servant, man. And that comes with with what we do every single day. Uh, creating, man. Just keep creating, keep creating, keep creating, keep creating, keep, keep praying. That P word once again, man. Um, because again, Legacy, hey, I, you know, I got a niece. Her her son is named Legacy. That's what she named him. And I remember asking her, why did you name him Legacy? And she said, Because I know what God's going to do in his life. And and I'll leave it with that, man. Just knowing what God's going to do. Uh, our legacy is going to be, you know, written. It's already written. Great Dr. Oliver T. Reed that's with us today. He always says, Man, there's there's no you-haul behind the heartse. You know, it and and again, when when we look at that obituary form, you know, it's it's going to be stated whether or not, you know, the law is going to say, job well done, my good and faithful servant.

SPEAKER_12: 1:02:31

I love it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:32

Who's that next? Lou? Lou, Mr. Who's next?

SPEAKER_12: 1:02:35

Uh, yes, sir. Uh, so if we're not to think about legacy, I just think about that lasting impact, and that's built through those meaningful connections. And that's what really we talk about, what we're doing on a day-to-day basis. It's as parents, as men, as fathers, going out and creating those teachable and memorable experiences that will last the children a lifetime. And that's really what I believe our role is on earth as RL, and many of you have already said is that we need to spend time just connecting with our children and connecting with others outside of the home, uh, especially young people, because they just need to see positive male role models out there establishing connections. And I believe that's what really secures your legacy.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:17

Very good. Did we miss anybody? Bad, yeah.

SPEAKER_11: 1:03:20

I don't know. Um, you might make some background noise, but um, I really wanted to build off uh BL and um. And TO because it just was so in alignment of what I was already thinking in terms of legacy. The thing that came to my spirit is you know, legacy is so big. Legacy seems so big, right? It seems like this big grand thing. But the thing that God has shown me is that legacy is small and legacy is little. It's the small impacts that you are making in somebody's life each and every day. You know, the Bible says that there's faith of the mustard seed can move mountains, right? And so when you are, when you invest in something small, hey, when you invest in something, when you invest in the small things, then big results happen. Um, one of the things that I shared when I went to go speak to Clemson and Rutgers um just a couple weeks ago is that everybody wants to be a part of winning, but not everybody wants to invest in the process of what it actually takes to win, right? That means everybody wants to be a part of this big, you know, social media following and this big church and millions of people and all of these things because in our society that looks like the ultimate win, but not everybody wants to go through the process of what it actually takes. You don't know what it took. Um, I heard I think RL talked about count the cost. You don't know what it took to even get to that point. You know, everybody, a lot of people see what I do and they see that, you know, I go out to these big teams, but not everybody even know that most of those I don't even get paid for, right? I most of those, I'm trying to scramble up a dollar just to get there because I see the the little impact that I can make that can sprout up into something great, right? Like, shoot, I can go, I can go on in testimony about that, but God has really taught me a lot about mana in this season. And it's just a small, it's is what I need, not nothing more, nothing less. Right? He said, Don't take more than what you need, right? But take exactly what you need. And sometimes that seemed like a small portion because I might not need a big plate today. I might just need the small little seed that sprouts up into something great. And so uh what I'm learning is legacy is small. It's the it's after I get off this column, you know, watching my wife across from me right now with this bonnet on her head, and um, she's mad at me right now. I messed up, and and and and she's sweeping the she's she's sweeping right now, but what it looks like for me is don't take me nothing to do with this. It's all it's all Mr. U fault. No, it's not but just don't text it in this point though, is it's the little things that I'm learning um that sprouts up to be the big things, um, you know, like cleaning up, right? That's something that I don't like doing, but that's something that my wife enjoys and appreciates, right? And so I can do something small that will ultimately lead to big things, and you know, we've been talking about, you know, I got a list of P words, right? And so um, anyway, somebody caught that. But anyway, we're continuing to be purposeful and continue to be driven. So I appreciate y'all, man.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:38

All right, pocket, come on. Legacy, brief as you can. Me and getting out of this, man. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:44

All right, man. I'll go fast. Um, what everybody else said, love it. Uh Brent started us off. If you can help one guy out there uh to be better tomorrow than he is today, you have succeeded and you've left a legacy somewhere with somebody, and you're probably never gonna see it. My biggest takeaway from this uh was that it took me a very long time in my life to realize that my legacy, that I was really gonna leave, my true legacy, had nothing to do with work. And uh unfortunately, that's that it took me a long time to see it. And so, to be honest, it's my three kids, them being happy, them being successful in their own way in life, and and uh passing on values to my grandkids. That's legacy. I'm good.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:21

I love it. All right, final question for the show. Be please be be uh aware of your responses in in all this as far as time goes, kind of respect your time and give you a Saturday back. Well, we had a football theme going, Saturdays is all college football for me, so don't try to mess with that, all right? Just kidding. All right, so only question left. If you could rewrite your work life purpose story, I want to round out this incredible two-part segment that we've done on this show. If you can rewrite your work life purpose story, what would the next chapter say? Think about that. If you can rewrite your work life purpose story, what would the next chapter say? That shouldn't be a super long answer, all right? If it is, it's fine. But if it if it doesn't have to be, that's great too. If you can rewrite your work life purpose story, what would the next chapter say? What's the title of the next chapter? Get us tantalized about this book we're gonna read about your life here.

unknown: 1:08:16

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:17

I'll jump in on that if that's cool. Um get out of the way real quick. Uh, mine would be real simple. Um, it would be uh service and it would be given back, and that's pretty much it. Uh, and it's given back to uh you know all the people that I possibly can, all the people who've helped me. Um, and of course, and I think most importantly, given back to my wife for all the sacrifices she made to get me here. I get to do this full time and sit here with you guys. Um, and that's only because she supported me every step of the way with all the stupid things I did along the way. So uh that's it for me, brothers.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:46

Wow, I wish I could see a smile. I know it's humongous. Beautiful wife you have, by the way, man. So excited to hear you say something like that. It's really good, man. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05: 1:08:54

Who's next? I can jump on. Oh, yeah. So next chapter, what would it say? It would say, Um, be your truth and lead with love.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:12

Be your truth and lead with love. I love it. Who's next? Lou.

SPEAKER_12: 1:09:17

Yeah, so my next chapter would be execute. Uh, because in many cases, we spend time planning and and just thinking about it. We pray and we we come to all these conclusions, uh, but then we just get stuck. Uh so my next chapter is execute. Show them that it can be done and continue to do your thing.

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:35

I love it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:36

Thank you, Lou.

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:37

I gotta jump in right behind Lou uh because I'm actually doing that right now. I'm in the process of doing that, and my next chapter is from excuses to execution. Um, so you you you spoke to me, Lou. And that's what it is. Like, real quick, um, just evaluating my life and just being transparent and showing that my uh my downfalls, and now showing how rise, how we rise above that, and how you stop making the excuses and and and walk in execution. Um, so it's it's time, like I said earlier, it's time to be. No longer is not stop talking about it and be about it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:17

Wow, let's talk about the who's next. I'm gonna say his plans, man. His plans, putting childish things behind me. It's time to kind of like what Rory said, right? I have a lifetime of mistakes, lifetime of trying to do things my way, right? And like I've mentioned just a little bit in there in here and on other on other panels, man. Uh when I step into what he wants and I'm obedient to that, that's when I'm being a man. That's when my life is falling in line. That's when all the things come together that I could never even imagine. So his plans putting childish things behind me.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:58

All right, man. There's DM. Who's next? And I would say uh keep building. Just keep building. Keep building. That's the name of the chapter, right? Gotcha. Gotcha. Who's next?

SPEAKER_11: 1:11:17

That sound like that sound like Nehemiah, TL. Um, building one hand and keep working in the other. So I just want to encourage you there. Mine would be, um, sorry, I need to talk into the mic. Mine would be play your part. Um, and the reason why that is important for me is because um your part might not always be the superstar. Your part might not always be the quarterback, even though that's the position I play, right? Um, but you got to play your part, play your role, know your role, right? And know what God is calling you into this season. Don't fake it till you make it, right? Don't don't don't subscribe and fake it till you make it, culture, right? Because that's a lie from the enemy, because God judges the inward part, so we can't make it into heaven by faking it, but we have to be able to play our part on purpose.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:06

Love it. Did you miss anybody? Who's next?

SPEAKER_06: 1:12:09

I guess I'm other than you, I'm the last to go on this one. Okay. Uh multiplication. The next chapter is multiplication. God's very clear about the gifts he gives us being called to multiply. In two different parables in the Bible, Jesus talks about the servants, right? The stewards serving the masters who were entrusted with talents. And in both places, they were they were blessed, they were admonished for being faithful because they took the gifts, the talents they were given, and they multiplied. God has given me a set of gifts, and in this new chapter, it's all about multiplying those gifts for the kingdom.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:55

I love it, I love it. I guess if I answer the question myself, mine would be the sledgehammer is your friend. That's the name of my next chapter. I had a uh a business, a corporation that I was building. Some of you may know a little bit about it. I had to take a sledgehammer to it. It was something that was built on a foundation that God didn't say build. It was it wasn't it was a bad thing, it was actually a good thing, but as we should know by now, everything that's good is not God. I had to take a sledgehammer to the entire thing. Just imagine the embarrassment, been promoting it, been putting it out here, telling folks about it, asking people to support it. Come to find out that it wasn't what God was saying. Maybe it was close to it, but it's not exactly what he was saying. So, guess what had to happen? Had to take a sledgehammer to it and top knock the whole thing down and start from scratch. And I think there's a message in that because believe it or not, uh if we don't listen to the Lord specifically and do exactly what he says without adding our own stuff to it, we end up building something and investing in something, or some people that he didn't say, and then we got to tear the whole thing down and go back to the starting point, a place of obedience to do what he said to do. So it's a little bit embarrassing, it doesn't feel good to me as a person, but the sledgehammer is my friend. It helped me to get back on track, back to the start, the correct starting point quickly and faster. I want to bring a challenge to you guys before we get out of here. No more than five minutes to touch on this, hopefully, please. But I want I want to make a challenge to you guys that are not only on the panel, but you guys that are watching and listening to this show, and you have been, you've been with us since we started in June. I want to put a challenge out to you guys because we're growing and we're evolving, we're doing some new things coming up, but I want to make sure that we don't lose the point, we don't lose the vision of what this is all about. See, I love that you guys are here, and don't get me wrong, it's a godsend for you guys to be here. It matters to me. I'm dog tired. If I got here because I wanted to be here with you guys, it's I I get I get I get enjoyment, I get fulfillment from this. So it matters to me to do this. At the same time, there's always been a vision about this. I don't want you to get that loss, I don't want you to get it twisted. There's always been a vision about this. This needs to be happening in your neighborhoods. This needs to be happening in your sphere of influence in your communities. Y'all pass by three to five guys, probably every single day, and you better keep on walking. Or they headed to the bridge to jump, or they're going to the pill bottle. You don't know where they're going. We have a responsibility. I want to put too much on you guys, but I'm putting too much on you guys. This is what's a responsibility that we have, and you have to take it. You can't pass by folks to talk about God here on this platform, and you pass by people every day and let them keep going where they're going. Either you're gonna pull them out of the fire because you will pull out of the fire, or you're gonna watch them burn. You gotta just decide how you're gonna do this thing. So for the there's a couple of you who some of them are not here on the panel today, but some have are part of our uh of our family. They've been starting groups where they live, where they are with two people, with five people. And they're talking about stuff just like this, and they're creating safe spaces where you live, work, and play. Putting the challenge out to you guys to do the same thing. I don't mean a Facebook group, we all can do that. That's not really hard work. I'm talking about the intentional work that the masters can't see and analytics can't boost. Okay. I'm putting the challenge out to you guys, start building that. Even if you think you're imperfect and you don't think you have what it tastes, or maybe you don't have the faith component like some of us on the call do, you can get help with that too. Reach out to some of us who you think have that and have a conversation about it, but start doing the work, start building the community because if you don't do that, who's gonna do that? The next man might be ready to do the same thing that you were ready to do years ago and end it all. We got a responsibility. So I'm putting the channel to you guys to ask you a couple of questions and be calling the show out for real, okay? For real. Will you agree to connect more than you've been doing up to this point with other men? Even if it's men, even if it's even if it's men on this platform right now, even on this screen right now, would you agree to connect more than what you've been doing? Are you willing to honor the brotherhood by doing that? Are you willing to extend yourself beyond your comfort level? On two questions I'm asking today, I don't get an answer on live once you just think about that and do something about it after we go off air. Send that message, make that phone call. Are you willing to connect more than you have been up to this point? I can't wait for 2026 to start doing a new year's resolution. That's trash. Do something right now. Are you willing to connect more than you have been? Are you willing to extend yourself outside of your comfort zone? If you do that, if you decide to do that and be honest about that, I believe that's gonna make more of a difference in somebody's life than anything you can say on this platform going out across however far this broadcast is being seen and reached. Okay, so think about those two things. Are you willing to connect more? If the answer is yes, throw your hand up. I'm willing to connect more. Matt, Matt, Matt, you can't be the only one.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:16

Matt, you can't I had it up first, it just came down first. That's all.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:21

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